20
Aug
10

Hey guys, if I make a bunch of stuff up that makes me a good breeder! AKA, stupidest rat breeder ever.


Ad Text:

Hello,

We have some very nice selective rat weanlings for adoption. We have the most incredible Black Rat called the Black Phantom. If you are looking for a Black Rat look no further. We have Tan and White Berkshires, Tan and White Rex, Brown and White Berkshires and Rex. We have Black and White Berkshires and Rex to if interested. We have these rats for fun and when we get too many we just have to put some up for adoption. Our surplus is your gain. These are not pet store rats. The parents have been put together from all over the country from selectively sought after rats. We take our rats very seriously. The price is firm. We have not put any of our rats for adoption recently so they will be adopted fast. Here are some pics of our current pups for adoption. They are about 3 weeks old and will be weaned soon for pickup. Also if you are looking for any certain colors we have it now or will have it soon. We have blues browns tans and albinos if interested. Also we have some multi colored too. The last but most important thing is that all of these rats have been hand raised from day one. They are very calm and do not nip. They are really amazing. Come check one out when you get the chance.

We currently have Dumbo Rats for adoption and they are really nice. We also have some gorgeous Blue and Brown Hooded babies. We have varigated and multi-colored also. We will have weaned rats available for adoption on August 19th. Please call or write and tell me what you are looking for.

Rehoming Fees START at 10.00 each. Please inquire for what you are interested in. We have many unique rats for adoption.

We also have a few older rats around 1 year of age. They are available for adoption if you are looking for a wonderful mature pet that requires just a ton of love. Please inquire if you are interested in adopting an older rat.

Thanks for looking,
Bill
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There’s so much stupid in this ad I can’t even know where to begin criticizing it, so first let me link some responsible rat breeders (yes, they exist) who would never, ever, ever dream of finding adopters through Craigslist.

Responsible Rat Breeder 1
Responsible Rat Breeder 2

Notice something those sites have in common? It’s called a “waiting list,” and it’s what responsible breeders keep so that they don’t have to look for homes for babies on the most notoriously awful pet sales/adoption website in the country.

But then again, this guy isn’t responsible. Now, none of these errors would be anything to hoot and holler about if they came from a pet owner seeking a good home for rats he or she could no longer keep. But this Bill character is setting himself up as a breeder who is a source for premium, fantastical, highly in demand (but not enough so for a BLOODY GOLDARN WAITING LIST) rats. So, let’s pick apart his ad for reasons this dumbass shouldn’t be breeding at all, shall we?

1. “We have the most incredible Black Rat called the Black Phantom.” There is no such thing as a Black Phantom Rat. These are the known and repeatable rat colors that exist. “New” colors must go through an approval process with a show organization. See, the phenotype of a rat (what you see when you look at it) results from its genotype (the genes creating that appearance), and new color genes just don’t spring up all over the place.

This here is the supposed black phantom, which in reality is just a solid black rat. Nothing special about it whatsoever:

Plain black rat.

Look, the rat is black. Wow. Just like the millions of other rats that have been born with black fur.

(this is a long one, so you’re going to have to click through to read the whole thing!)

2. “We have Tan and White Berkshires, Tan and White Rex, Brown and White Berkshires and Rex.”. Neither tan nor brown is an actual rat color. The colors fawn and beige are. Fawn is the agouti color diluted with two copies of the RED gene (ruby eye dilute) and beige is a black rat diluted with two copies of the RED gene. These are the colors this idiot is calling “tan” and “brown.” Note that this genotype information is available with a Google search taking less than 10 seconds to perform.

Fawn bareback rat

Labeled "Pure Hooded Tan/White" in Bill's Craigslist ad. This is a fawn bareback rat.

Beige rat.

Labeled "Brown Hooded" in Bill's craigslist ad. This is a beige (probably hooded, but you can't see) rat.

3. “We have these rats for fun and when we get too many we just have to put some up for adoption.” If you have them for fun, then keep them as pets and don’t breed them. Breeding is a stress on the body of the doe who carries the litter. If they are your pets kept for fun, let them enjoy the life of a pet. Breeding should only be performed to produce rats of superior quality. If he thinks this will fool people into thinking he’s following Craigslist’s “no breeding” rule, Bill is out of his mind.

4. “Our surplus is your gain.” Yup, you’ll gain some crappy basement bred rats from an idiot who doesn’t even know what color they are. Surplus rats, blue light special, Aisle 12! You can just see how much he cares about them, referring to them in such glowing terms.

5. “These are not pet store rats. The parents have been put together from all over the country from selectively sought after rats.” So you got them from pet stores all over the country, then? If they’re sought after, which breeders did your foundation stock come from? What are their registration numbers? Where are the other breeders’ websites so buyers can verify that these are selectively bred lines that are indeed “sought after?”

6. “We have not put any of our rats for adoption recently so they will be adopted fast.” Bullshit. This is my hometown Craigslist and this guy is on there at LEAST every couple of weeks. Compare that to actual good breeders who produce 4-6 litters a year or perhaps a little more if excellent homes are available.

7. “Here are some pics of our current pups for adoption.” No, they are not. Again, I check this Craigslist every day, and that “black phantom” picture is the same one he’s used for nearly a year. So which is it? Are your rats so “sought after” that you’re still trying to push the same “baby” rat on someone after a year, or are you lying about the pictures being of pups that are currently available?

8. “Also if you are looking for any certain colors we have it now or will have it soon.” Any color? Okay, I want a purple rat. No, seriously though, there are several dozen colors and patterns if you just count the actual, genotyped, recognized, recorded colors on file with the North American Rat Registry. Not to mention the ones this guy made up. And he has ALL of them or will have them soon? What, is he teleporting rats into his basement with super Crappy Breeder Majick?

9. “We have blues browns tans and albinos if interested.” Wow, he got an actual rat color! DING DING DING! There is such a thing as a blue rat! However, albinos? Not so much. “Albino” rats are either REW (Ruby Eyed White) or the more common PEW (Pink Eyed White) colorations. These result from the combination of three or more dilution genes–something good breeders avoid.

10. “Also we have some multi colored too.” No, you don’t. Rats don’t come in multi-colored. They come in solid or patterned.

11. “The last but most important thing is that all of these rats have been hand raised from day one.” No, they haven’t been. Hand-raising entails taking a rat away from its mother and feeding it on milk replacer at least every two hours, and it’s not something anyone does voluntarily, because it’s a miserable experience and the babies still usually die.

12. “We will have weaned rats available for adoption on August 19th.” Only stupid because he said before this that the babies being adopted out are now 3 weeks old. Rats do wean earlier than cats and dogs, but they don’t wean at 3 weeks old. They nurse until 4-4 1/2 weeks and should be kept for at least one more week after weaning by the breeder to ensure they are transitioning well onto solid food.

13. “We have many unique rats for adoption.” Oh, they’re unique, all right. Unique in that their health and temperament isn’t being tracked with a five or more generation pedigree, unique in that they’re not from a recognized reputable breeder, and unique in that you made up the colors to try to sell them faster.

14. “We also have a few older rats around 1 year of age. They are available for adoption if you are looking for a wonderful mature pet that requires just a ton of love.” So all of a sudden they’re no longer his personal pets that he keeps for fun? Or they are, but you can buy one for ten bucks if you want? I love them like family, but I’ll sell ’em to ya when they’re too old to use as baby factories anymore! Next up, my grandmother, only $15!

As a final parting gift of stupid, here’s another rat with a completely made up color. Bill’s ad calls this an “Orange Dream” rat. This is a fawn rat.

Fawn rat.

Bill's ad calls this an "Orange Dream" rat. This is a fawn rat.

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3 Responses to “Hey guys, if I make a bunch of stuff up that makes me a good breeder! AKA, stupidest rat breeder ever.”


  1. August 20, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    The rats in the pics are so cute. But I doubt they are any of the actual ones he has – especially since he has been using the same pics for at least a year. As you have proven, this guy has no clue what he is doing or what he is talking about. Makes me want to go buy them all for a willing and responsible person who does know how to care for them.

    • 2 Leslie
      August 20, 2010 at 8:36 pm

      About six months ago we had a deadly rat virus go around. I had called and asked him about his rats and asked him if he was aware of it. He said that he had never heard of this virus. He knew nothing about it or its symptoms or results. I decided never to get rats from him because this virus is well know and documented whithin the rat breeding comunity and if suspected of being present the breeder will quarentine their rats.

      • August 23, 2010 at 1:42 pm

        Are you talking about SDA? If so I think the AFRMA tracks outbreaks and where they came from, especially if they come from a breeder. They did when I had rats, anyway.

        This guy clearly knows zip about rats… he actually emailed the person who posted this to CL for us to tell her he had “fixed” his ad when all he fixed was the colors, not the part where he’s a basement breeding moron who doesn’t think there’s a problem with producing more and more rats that are absolutely nothing special and add nothing to the quality of pet rats in America, using his females as baby factories, dumping them at a year of age when they aren’t as useful as baby factories anymore, and calling himself a good breeder.


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